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we know they're not

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thanks for joining me on this wonderful

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thursday afternoon

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uh depending where you are maybe evening

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i appreciate you guys hanging out today

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uh everyone we have

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david oh thank you for the super nice

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ethereal aura

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yeah jose laura witness citizen always a

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shelly what's up shelly awesome to see

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you here thank you so much for becoming

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boom yeah what's it called i think she's

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um jeremy what's up mr fedex driver

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uh gerald greenwood long time no see

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king what's up josh what's up

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awesome another josh a surf psych okay i

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pinzer what's up awesome so today we're

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for those of you who don't know uh first

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a great gentleman named andy uh runs it

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i put the links in the chat

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anomalous podcast and

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mr andy how are you today sir

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top of the morning to you sean how are

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that's for that's for vinnie that's my

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what day it was for sure yeah

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preston in the uk and they'd done that a

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played an interview i got asked the day

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people and he threw this presentation

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the best one on the day by far and he

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time and i was amazed they both said yes

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so quickly and listening to them both

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talk about what the show might sound

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like

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this about

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a historical event like deep dives of

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stuff that people forget about not the

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usual like roswell event and it's like

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okay great you can talk about roswell

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but

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they're all dead and their grandkids are

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dying and it's fascinating but it's it's

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happened a long long time ago and

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there's so much happen just after that

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and beyond that people don't know about

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um so they are they have done their

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first episode which they cheated because

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they've done a bit of an introduction an

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introductory episode and which is still

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really really good to listen to i'm not

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going to lie um i've got the pleasure of

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editing all these and just putting them

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out and stuff but um it was really

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important for me that

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obviously priscilla and and vinnie who

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disclosure team everyone knows well

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you're a good friend of yours as well

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they've got well established podcasts

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um

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dave and graham are going to have their

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own i'm not involved at all i don't want

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to be involved i don't want my voice on

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it it's their podcast it's got to sound

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like they are shown a different a

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different show um and the same when it

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comes to dan which will eventually be

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launching sometime in the summer of 2025

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if he doesn't go quicker um dan dan

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takes his time with things because uh

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he's still designing the logo i think

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was the last time i asked him

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and was hoping but i think that the

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first time we spoke he was like yeah

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mid-january mid-january i could i could

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get something done and he sent me a

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draft of the logo the other day and he

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was like i'm thinking of something like

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this

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and i was like yeah so he's under strict

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strict instruction though he has to get

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something done before he goes to

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colombia

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so um

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so yeah i think there's a good mix of

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shows on there i know you kind of

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touched on all the names before but i

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think it covers the bases

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um and a lot of things that i could

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touch on but couldn't do it justice and

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i think they've all got their own unique

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views and opinions and tones that people

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won't just be listening to the same show

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with four different voices

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yeah for sure i mean

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that's another one a touch or not dan

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signal um like that's a guy that has so

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much

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knowledge

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that is kind of untapped to be honest um

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because like you said on your

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introductory show yourself um

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you know you guys kind of stick to the

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nuts and bolts you may get to the edge

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of you know consciousness or something

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like that but if for the most part you

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know not so much so this is an

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opportunity for him to kind of

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you know just go where he wants to go

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with just about everything it's going to

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be called color outside the lines is

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that right

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yeah that's right it really is perfect

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yeah a really good example was i i

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interviewed dr andrew gallamore and it

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was all about psychedelics

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and again i'm not an expert in that

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subject i know the bare minimum i can i

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can still have a decent interview with

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someone like that but true that dan

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accompanied me on that and he took the

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conversation a little bit further at

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points where i was more than happy to

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just sit back and be like on you go and

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terminology and the names of certain

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things and previous you know case

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studies and they could have that little

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back and forward and again i think

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that's a really nice idea if anyone

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listens to that or has listened to it as

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to what dan's podcast will sound like

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because it's taking that extra step and

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and just letting the conversation

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probably flow a little bit freer and

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back and forward so he'll he'll

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definitely have some different names and

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guests that i've not had on in the past

387
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so i'm looking forward to hearing that

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one as well

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yeah so you pretty much just took on a

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yeah

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i think people will be sick of me saying

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it but i do work like full time 40 hours

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a week um aside from doing the podcast

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um

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these shows for that ufo podcast that

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aren't interviews but involve me doing

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more work than i've done for any other

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podcast or shows before

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probably the closest thing to

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researching and i had this kind of list

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of stuff and i was saying to dan this is

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what i want to do um here's what i've

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got so far and as i was talking i

404
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thought it was being really rude and he

405
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was looking off the screen and clicking

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about and i could see him doing

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yeah uh-huh yeah okay and i was like

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he's clearly doing something here that

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is important to him so i'll let it go

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and uh after about a minute he said i'm

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sending you a link and he had this whole

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file of uh we transferred me of all this

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stuff that is going to be really useful

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that he's just been collating for for a

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couple of years off his own back in the

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background and i was like ah that's

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that's amazing that's

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that's going to massively massively help

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what i'm trying to do so uh so yeah he's

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like you say untapped um he's quite

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modest with stuff and

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i think the same as like david and

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graeme though as

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well yeah

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yeah these people don't appreciate how

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good they are with stuff and and their

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own unique expertise and

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um

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it's funny like people a lot of people

430
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think me and dan have known each other

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for a long time

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um and it seems like

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there's no um

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it wasn't like oh let's do a podcast

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together and i i dm'd dan one night and

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i've got the original dms it wasn't it

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was literally a month after i started

438
00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:48,000
the podcast i was pretty new on on

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twitter and ufo twitter and stuff

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and i'd saw him commenting on a few

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threads and chatting with people back

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and forward and i just said to him like

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um

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oh hi man and i think i was looking for

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a little bit of an introduction to some

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of the ufo twitter verse and what it was

447
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like and all that kind of stuff and he

448
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said

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yeah yeah very yeah

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and i was just like can i watch the deal

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and stuff and he'd listen to a few

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episodes of the podcast i think i'd only

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had about three or four out maybe at

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that point um and i said to him oh you

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should come on sometime and he was like

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no i don't really do that kind of stuff

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and he's never been on anything or spoke

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to anyone like that and uh i said well

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if something comes up i've got an idea

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but i could really use someone to bounce

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off of on it i want to do like a watch

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along with skinwalker ranch episodes but

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i need someone to talk through those

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with me and the first time that me and

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dan spoke

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like properly was about five minutes

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before i hit the record button on that

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very first episode and it probably shows

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because they're about dry at times

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because it was literally like hi mate

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you okay yeah good to meet you good to

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talk finally cool so um i've got notes

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have you got notes yeah cool i'm going

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to hit record and we'll see how it goes

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and that's that was kind of how me and

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dan got to know each other so

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um and we have met once in person and

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that was a in london a few months ago as

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people will have seen uh

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so yeah it's been a really the whole the

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whole process from starting the podcast

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i'm going to sound like one of these

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people i hate now but it's been really

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organic

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from part laziness on my part and part

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just i like to just let things happen

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and see how it goes and i think with the

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network taking a bring it full circle

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that's what i've kind of just let happen

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where there's some stuff out there i

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would love to be able to put all in one

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place and i'm

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over the moon that vinnie and priscilla

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who have their own established channels

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and i always point everyone to go and

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listen to them there first watch their

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stuff on youtube

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the the audio is there as an option if

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that's how you want to digest it um and

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also giving like dave and graham like a

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platform that people can see that have

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built off my own podcast to kind of

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hopefully give them a bit of a launching

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pad to something that people definitely

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deserve to hear because i think their

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their pods going to be something a

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little bit special and then

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i've got a very good idea what dan's is

509
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going to sound like and i'm looking

510
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forward to that as well so yeah it's um

511
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a lot of extra work as you say but i

512
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spent my lunch hour today at work well

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i'm working from home and here

514
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doing podcast stuff i literally turned

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from a work laptop which is here

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and turned to the pc which is here and

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then for an hour and then back to work

518
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so it's uh but it's good it keeps me

519
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busy keeps me going

520
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yeah i know is it it's

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you know there's almost like this

522
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underneath that all this hidden desire

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that just keeps pushing you forward

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doing this

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you know um at least for me and it seems

526
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like we kind of share that i mean you do

527
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a lot of episodes done a lot of episodes

528
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:46,960
um but how many are you typically doing

529
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in a month now for that ufo podcast

530
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i'm trying to slow down i think i got

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really excited back in the

532
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back like yeah when you first started

533
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like it was like kind of one a week

534
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and then it was always one a week was

535
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the plan but it would be really nice if

536
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it was popular enough to do two a week

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one kind of interviewing one kind of

538
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news update um it's probably now that

539
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it's between 10 and 12 but

540
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one of those is usually quite a short

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this is what's coming this month because

542
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it's really funny and you'll probably

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find this like as as it's got again like

544
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more people listening

545
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,440
you start to realize that like ufo

546
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twitter isn't the whole world

547
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and not everyone that listens to your

548
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podcast is on ufo twitter and they

549
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started to get people emailing me or

550
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like facebook messaging me or linkedin

551
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i've got like a business profile on

552
00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,799
linkedin because of my day job it's not

553
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a secret people can find that if they

554
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,320
search my name it's not enough it's not

555
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,480
a usual name i've got

556
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,240
and i've had a few messages from people

557
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:48,240
saying you talk about twitter a lot i'm

558
00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:50,799
not on twitter or instagram but i really

559
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,120
like the podcast and i just wanted to

560
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:55,360
reach out and i was like ah i cater too

561
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:58,480
much to to ufo twitter so i think at

562
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,840
that point i started doing those little

563
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:01,679
updates where everyone can hear this and

564
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:03,039
here's what's coming this month if you

565
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,799
want to get in touch or send questions

566
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,200
and this is some of the guests um so

567
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,200
it's probably between between 10 and 12

568
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,520
episodes a month now but

569
00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:13,280
i enjoy doing it and honestly like

570
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,039
people like yourself are very very

571
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:17,200
knowledgeable on the subject but you can

572
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,559
also put in

573
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,400
a lot of hard work and hours that people

574
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,320
don't see and there's a number of you

575
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,679
like that i know he's been having his

576
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,840
moans recently online but joe murgia

577
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:27,840
does this as well where he puts in a lot

578
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,280
of graft and work

579
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,280
and it's it's maybe an american thing

580
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:33,039
you guys like to moan and vent and stuff

581
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,559
right in british

582
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,240
we do it a bit more privately wherever

583
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,640
we go

584
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,720
but it's like you live and you learn

585
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:42,640
yeah there's so many of you do a lot of

586
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:44,400
hard work in the background

587
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:47,120
i have a terrible terrible memory

588
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,880
for anything right like really really

589
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,720
really bad i'm lucky i remember my own

590
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:52,720
kids names and birthdays

591
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,080
so like when i do this podcast

592
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,760
a lot of it helps me understand the

593
00:22:02,470 --> 00:21:59,840
subject as much as there's x number of

594
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:02,480
people listening but

595
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:04,960
when i when i talked to dan about the

596
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:06,960
the gillibrand stuff and what was going

597
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,559
through the senate and

598
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:10,480
as i'm doing that i'm learning about the

599
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:13,679
us political system at a very base level

600
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:15,039
but then there's people out there who

601
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:16,559
don't understand about all this stuff

602
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,919
and people that aren't from the us who

603
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,840
don't understand the political system so

604
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:21,919
when i ask the questions it's not like

605
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,679
i'm not being condescending like dan

606
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,360
tell us a bit about the congress and how

607
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,960
this works what exactly is happening

608
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,480
here it's because i've had to ask those

609
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,400
questions myself and go i don't

610
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,120
understand why this is happening so this

611
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,039
whole ndaa we're all talking about

612
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:36,960
that's actually wrong because we don't

613
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:39,039
really care about the ndaa we care about

614
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:40,400
this tiny little

615
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,640
paragraph at the bottom of it somewhere

616
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:43,919
that's what we care about and he's like

617
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,400
yeah exactly ah so those kind of private

618
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,480
conversations almost turn into little

619
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,640
podcasts and shows and it's just my way

620
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:52,000
of understanding it and i think if

621
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:53,919
there's stuff that i'm not sure often

622
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,919
asking about then other people will be

623
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:57,200
the same

624
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,400
and that's where a lot of the kind of

625
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,000
shows have came from especially when

626
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:01,919
it's just myself and dan

627
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:04,320
yeah i feel like there's that's kind of

628
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,840
part of

629
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,440
you know the organic

630
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,760
aspect of the show is

631
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,600
you know you're naturally learning more

632
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:14,400
about the topic in general and it's

633
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,159
coming off authentic because you're you

634
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,840
know translating that to the shows and

635
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,440
the episodes

636
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,000
um and that's pretty much what i'm doing

637
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:25,440
with with my research and stuff like i

638
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,640
didn't do

639
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,559
any research before i started the show i

640
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:30,720
didn't know really much of anything but

641
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:32,720
now i feel like i know

642
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:36,960
you know ufos from 47 to 69 inside

643
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:39,039
yeah

644
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,559
it's the stuff you pick up as you go

645
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:42,480
along and like i know dan said to me

646
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,799
once like we had a conversation one time

647
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,080
i can't remember what it was it might

648
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:48,159
have been for a pod i'm not sure but he

649
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,919
was like you've learned so much and you

650
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,240
don't realize it but it's i would never

651
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,159
claim to be an expert because there's

652
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:56,240
too much to know and so much of it

653
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:57,440
anyway

654
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,799
is just assumed knowledge or opinion or

655
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:02,640
other people's opinion that you're

656
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,360
choosing to you're choosing to take away

657
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,840
as fact yourself because tomorrow

658
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:09,840
we could find out that every single one

659
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,720
of us

660
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:12,400
is pretty much wrong

661
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,440
and it was actually option e that no one

662
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,760
had discussed and sean all that stuff

663
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:19,600
you researched and all that stuff andy

664
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,720
talked about

665
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,480
and all the stuff that joe murgy has

666
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,799
done and the wilson david wilson davis

667
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,000
memos

668
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,159
actually was all wrong it was there was

669
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:30,000
something to it but it was actually this

670
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,269
but i think at that point as long as

671
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,640
you've had the right attitude you're

672
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:40,240
able to just go with the conversation

673
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,320
and be like right okay cool so let's

674
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:43,600
look into this now is this what's

675
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,799
happening and

676
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,159
i think that's that's what i love about

677
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,480
the subject is i came into this as a kid

678
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,640
with the idea that other aliens coming

679
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,480
from other planets and visiting here in

680
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,559
spaceships to the point now where i'm

681
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,640
going yeah that probably happens in some

682
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:58,320
way shape or form but is there something

683
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,320
else that's intelligent here is that

684
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,320
something else here but not here is that

685
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:04,320
something else here but we can't see it

686
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,039
and

687
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,400
think a fascinating

688
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,720
topic and i think i had a back and

689
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,159
forward like we all did with steven

690
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,760
green street who's a good guy he just

691
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:15,440
likes winding people up

692
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,400
and

693
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:17,679
i get he has his

694
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,240
mid swings doesn't he but like

695
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,080
when he's claiming that you know if the

696
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,840
omaha stuff and this event was like

697
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:25,919
drone technology and it was actually

698
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,880
hypersonic russian jets and hypersonic

699
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,480
drones from china

700
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,640
that's fascinating still because okay

701
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,960
where's this technology came from should

702
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,559
have not just discovered this overnight

703
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:38,159
and then why aren't they using it for x

704
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:39,600
y and z so

705
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,840
i think they're still that those

706
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,440
questions and answers still leap down

707
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,200
the route of 80 and

708
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,600
all those other terrestrial analogies we

709
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:49,200
like to use that

710
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:50,880
that's fascinating

711
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:53,120
yeah i mean it's always about like uh

712
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:54,320
what keeps you thinking about it and

713
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:56,720
keeps you engaged is the why aspect of

714
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,360
it

715
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,159
you know and thinking about why would

716
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:02,400
this be happening why would there be a

717
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:03,200
whole

718
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,320
operation you know about ufos to push it

719
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:08,880
through to get an amendment passed on it

720
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,000
you know like why and that would be uh

721
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:13,679
and that's intriguing

722
00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:17,760
um depressing for me to you know um do

723
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:19,280
too much research on

724
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,279
[Laughter]

725
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,200
you can get lost in it though can't you

726
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,960
i see people in the chat mentioning like

727
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,200
rabbit holes and that's right because

728
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,120
it's that whole kind of

729
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,279
charlotte's web type or you know like

730
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,440
the big spider diagrams that go off each

731
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:34,799
other and you start in the middle with

732
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,720
like ufos and okay aliens human tech

733
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:41,279
non-human tech ultra terrestrial crypto

734
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,559
terrestrial and they start going off of

735
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,000
all of those and before you know what

736
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,320
you've got this whole massive web of

737
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:48,000
things and is it connected is it not

738
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:49,279
connected and

739
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:50,640
but i think that's why we like doing

740
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:51,679
this and

741
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:54,000
it gets the conversation interesting

742
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:55,120
yeah and there's so many different

743
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,559
places to go you know um in avenues to

744
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,919
research

745
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:02,400
for sure i mean consciousness in itself

746
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:05,440
if you decide to go that way i mean i i

747
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:06,799
feel like that's

748
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,840
just as never-ending as the whole ufo

749
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,440
mystery to begin with

750
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:13,039
absolutely you know

751
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,159
and

752
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,159
it's interesting when people think that

753
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,159
uh maybe the key to ufos is

754
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:19,679
consciousness it's like well you just

755
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,510
especially when it's something that's

756
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,440
still really misunderstood or not

757
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,840
understood at all anybody like it

758
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,520
and you hear that people with the ideas

759
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:33,440
that some of these beings especially at

760
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,679
the greys that people talk about

761
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,000
don't have consciousness or a soul and

762
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:40,320
they're like third generation ai

763
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:41,600
technology

764
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:44,080
clones or whatever they might be and

765
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:44,960
there's

766
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:47,919
beings that are jealous that have got

767
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,919
souls and free will and all that kind of

768
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,840
stuff and

769
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,039
then really

770
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,720
yeah you get all this like future human

771
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,240
stuff now coming into it which seems to

772
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,480
be the the flavor of the last six months

773
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:00,799
that ross ross coltar never invented it

774
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,480
but he certainly popularized it and

775
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,679
really brought it to the forefront of

776
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,840
the conversation for a lot of people

777
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,279
and michael masters having a lot of

778
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:09,039
conversations about that and he's booked

779
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:10,960
identified uh identifiable flying

780
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,039
objects and he's got another book coming

781
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,120
out about it too and

782
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,039
there just seems to be always a new

783
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,600
thread to add to the conversation

784
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,360
and i suppose what happens with this

785
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,159
conversation though is that

786
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:26,159
the old ones don't really go away it's

787
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,080
not like it's okay so now it's future

788
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,080
humans that's what it is it's just oh

789
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,080
it's future humans as well

790
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:34,720
as aliens from other planets and secret

791
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,000
u.s tech and non-human intelligence and

792
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,159
underwater bases and

793
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,240
yeah it's a whole lot to go off of

794
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,919
it's almost do you ever feel like

795
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,559
sometimes it's um

796
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:48,799
um you know i know it is kind of like a

797
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,720
trend but you know do you ever relate it

798
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,039
to like i don't know any other type of

799
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,880
trend there is whether it be music or

800
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,799
clothing or whatever it's like yeah i

801
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,039
remember in the you know the early 90s

802
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:01,520
the future human thing was popular but

803
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,880
yeah i i totally never really did no but

804
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,120
people just stopped talking about it

805
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,520
you're you're so right you're 100 right

806
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,960
sean that

807
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,679
and i see people and i get why i'll use

808
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:15,360
the term and this is this is a blanket

809
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,640
term right but like old school

810
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:18,480
ufologists people who

811
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,520
who look at us as young kids i'm 35 so

812
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:23,440
i'm saying that sarcastically right i

813
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:24,720
look at people who have been doing this

814
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,840
who are in their 50s and 60s and 70s and

815
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,840
and they see people like elizondo and

816
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:31,600
melon and and they say we've seen all

817
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,760
this before this has happened before

818
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,840
we've had and and we go no no it's never

819
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,520
happened like this

820
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,200
but they probably heard that or they

821
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,960
were those people themselves at the time

822
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:42,320
when they were going through like blue

823
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:43,520
book and all that other kind of stuff

824
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,720
where it was like

825
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:46,080
some and they didn't have social media

826
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,679
they didn't have everyone talking to

827
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,159
each other it was newsletters and you

828
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,080
know magazines and that kind of stuff

829
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:55,120
like so i can appreciate why why that is

830
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,720
the attitude but i can't help but feel

831
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:00,880
that there has been more progress made

832
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:02,960
in the last couple of years than

833
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,760
had happened in the previous decades

834
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,760
so yeah that might be like can i have

835
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:10,000
blind positivity but i really do think

836
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,159
there has been quite a lot made that

837
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:14,480
they never got this far before and and

838
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,399
maybe the internet and social media for

839
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,480
all people can be really down about it

840
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,559
at times has had a massive part to play

841
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,120
in that for good and for bad so

842
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,279
yeah i'm really excited to see where

843
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:27,840
this goes especially in the coming year

844
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,960
well i think um you know it's cliche but

845
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,720
because it's true like actions speak

846
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,960
louder than words and so if you just

847
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:36,720
take everything out of the picture and

848
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:38,880
look at the things that have actually

849
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,440
transpired since this character has

850
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,679
arrived on the scene

851
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:45,760
what would that be well

852
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:46,880
a lot

853
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,679
right i mean we have all these you know

854
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,760
whether he's directly responsible or not

855
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,440
it's the atmosphere that was created

856
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,960
that we have all these different

857
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,039
podcasts we're all always talking about

858
00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:58,960
it we're all diving in deep into

859
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,080
different areas we have an office now or

860
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,559
you know a group in um

861
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,919
you know the white house that's looking

862
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,080
into this stuff um there's a lot more

863
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:10,080
people knowledgeable about it

864
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:11,200
and

865
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,000
um

866
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:14,640
you know things are being highlighted so

867
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:17,200
in a bigger way than ever before

868
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,120
so and and that much you just can't

869
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,120
it is what it is at that point you can

870
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,360
be grumpy about it or not grumpy about

871
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,360
it the fact is like these things

872
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:29,360
happened

873
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,840
you know and that's different you know

874
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,320
yeah i i allocate like and this is from

875
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:35,840
obviously a personal point of view about

876
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:36,640
like

877
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,559
lou came to meet us in london and he was

878
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:41,120
the one that preempted that um

879
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,880
he didn't have to do that he met us for

880
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:44,399
lunch when he was over doing other

881
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:45,440
things

882
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,399
and

883
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,240
there was no super secret meeting you

884
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,480
know we were in like a restaurant with

885
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,559
people next to us at other tables right

886
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:54,880
so it was a secret as that as in there

887
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:56,720
were families next to us in couples and

888
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,039
all that kind of stuff right um

889
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,440
and we all had a drink and something to

890
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,799
eat and it was about an hour and a half

891
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:04,320
two hours and then we all went our

892
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:05,919
separate ways

893
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:08,240
and if this was some guy leading a

894
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,720
massive psyop on behalf of the us

895
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:11,760
government

896
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,840
then why is he going out his way when

897
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:15,600
he's over here with his over here in the

898
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:17,360
uk with his wife

899
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,720
you know i think we all know now it was

900
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,720
the gq magazine

901
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:22,559
at the time which people were asking

902
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,159
about and that wasn't our place to say

903
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:26,240
oh you lose over doing this i'm not his

904
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,640
pa so and he was over with his wife as

905
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:30,320
well so he didn't have to come and meet

906
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:31,440
us

907
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,799
taking a break to go meet some english

908
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,720
and scottish guys for for a drink on his

909
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:38,480
lunch break you know and to me that

910
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,120
makes absolutely no sense a side guy

911
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:43,200
still needs friends yeah well yeah

912
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,240
that's it

913
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,200
and like you say for guys who like are

914
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:49,440
are part of this psyop i hate the word

915
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:51,039
right but right

916
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,640
they don't have i don't understand

917
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,600
they're not doing a bad job they're

918
00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:55,360
doing the job they're doing but

919
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,039
him and chris melanie and cole are

920
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,519
drawing a lot of attention to something

921
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:01,840
you know and now in a big way especially

922
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,960
from a us point of view in the

923
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:04,080
mainstream

924
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:05,919
that

925
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,960
to be happening they want to discredit

926
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,399
the subject not

927
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,720
push the conversation so

928
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,880
then again i might just be totally wrong

929
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:16,799
and be liked to and

930
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:19,760
that's a huge that's a huge change like

931
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:22,559
um well you know again i'm just 47 this

932
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:24,799
1969 guy but

933
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,039
in those years things you know somewhat

934
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:28,720
similar have happened to this like with

935
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:31,279
uh kehoe kehoe is always pressing

936
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,240
um congress to start investigations um

937
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:36,080
there were calls for public hearings

938
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,200
there was nycap was a huge organization

939
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:41,279
you know that was always

940
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,080
um trying to push for transparency and

941
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:46,640
everything um but it never quite got

942
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,080
there it never

943
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,159
you know they investigated but it was in

944
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:52,320
the shadows i was just watching this old

945
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,799
movie that was based on you know real

946
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:56,159
stuff or whatever

947
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,919
and they told everybody that the first

948
00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,679
project sign closed and they weren't

949
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,519
investigating anymore you know and

950
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:03,600
meanwhile they have grudge and blue book

951
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,559
and all that stuff so you know

952
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,280
it is uh just a lot different in you

953
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:10,960
know the one thing i was saying too like

954
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,159
that wonderful episode you had where um

955
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,639
you guys donated a bunch of money for

956
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:18,800
charity and raised money for

957
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,079
um i think it was saint jude's

958
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:24,159
children's hospital was it and yeah i

959
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,359
think you mean

960
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,240
yeah yeah and who goes out of their way

961
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,839
to do all that stuff

962
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,760
um you know that's just a goodness of

963
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,200
your heart kind of thing you don't have

964
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:34,879
to do that you don't have to do any of

965
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:37,119
that kind of stuff you know so it's that

966
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,800
stuff that kind of makes the person to

967
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,320
me and then when you just sit down with

968
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,879
them one-on-one like and just trust your

969
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,399
gut which in the end you just really

970
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:45,679
have to do

971
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,280
um it it just feels fine it feels feels

972
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:51,040
good to me you know

973
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,800
and you know what like again i'll say

974
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:54,800
just for people like i had no part in

975
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:57,040
setting that up that was all done and

976
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:58,000
all i

977
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,440
done was talk about it sometimes and

978
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,119
tweet it and and stuff like other people

979
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,480
did as well but

980
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,160
dan was the one in london that took the

981
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,320
poster down and asked can you sign this

982
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:08,720
for me and i'm going to raffle it for

983
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,359
charity and lou was like all for it and

984
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,280
it was lou that said to dan

985
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,520
uh i will give the person who donates

986
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,599
the most money a personal phone call and

987
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:19,200
then it was lou that said to dan

988
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,839
actually make it a zoom call so again he

989
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:23,680
went out of his way

990
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:26,480
or semester sigh up to to phone some

991
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,200
random person that he didn't have to and

992
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:31,599
yeah make a difference so again it was

993
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:33,119
really nice of him to do that and again

994
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,400
it speaks for darden as well that he

995
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,400
wanted a kind of difficult time a year

996
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:38,320
to to raise that kind of money and the

997
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,240
people that donated it was amazing like

998
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,560
i think so many people did so yeah what

999
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:44,800
what did uh how much did you wind up

1000
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,480
raising for that um 24 000

1001
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:50,640
wow

1002
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,640
holy crap

1003
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:54,400
i think i think i said to dan

1004
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,079
realistically at one point i think i

1005
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,240
thought 2 000 would be amazing

1006
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,800
especially time of year holiday time

1007
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,480
people are still people are still out of

1008
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,160
work and you hear about the us you guys

1009
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,560
had like stimulus checks in the uk for

1010
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,160
so much of the last year or so people

1011
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:10,320
have had a full low for low scheme it

1012
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,760
was called where people were being paid

1013
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,520
by the government and stuff

1014
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:14,960
so yeah for people to do what they've

1015
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,880
done was incredible and then off the

1016
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,560
back of that as well

1017
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,079
again just to make clear it was a very

1018
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:21,839
very separate thing

1019
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,800
dan started a gofundme for money to go

1020
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,720
to colombia because it came up very last

1021
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:28,400
minute and he would never have had the

1022
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,520
cash to go himself um so again people

1023
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,839
within a week had the money to send him

1024
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:36,000
off to colombia

1025
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,359
but he'll be working for that money like

1026
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,280
he he knew and said the whole time

1027
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,280
himself that he's going to be recording

1028
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,280
stuff and keeping people up to date on

1029
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,040
social media and can i try and pay

1030
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,720
people back as much as they can that way

1031
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,480
and make people feel like they're there

1032
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,839
as well so

1033
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,280
the whole the whole experience of

1034
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,200
starting the podcast from from day one

1035
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,280
has has been amazing and has gave us a

1036
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,760
lot of strange opportunities to to get

1037
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:59,440
to this point i'm sitting here now

1038
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,640
talking to you

1039
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,359
yeah yeah interesting hey sometimes it's

1040
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,440
really just about the ride more so than

1041
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:06,839
than where you're

1042
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:10,000
headed and yeah and again i suppose i

1043
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,200
can want to talk about the network don't

1044
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,119
know but i'll talk about anything um

1045
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:15,280
yeah just shooting this [\h__\h] that's how

1046
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,240
it is over here yeah yeah yeah it's it's

1047
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:20,079
the way to do it um

1048
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,520
having those guys put those shows

1049
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,200
together and they're going out to

1050
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,640
everyone

1051
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,200
it's free again like

1052
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,040
i think what

1053
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,040
they're all for the most part parents

1054
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:33,359
are mad either and you've got dan who's

1055
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:36,560
who's doing his own lone ranger thing

1056
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,000
but there's a lot of creative work on

1057
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:39,920
the side and projects with other people

1058
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,680
and and a lot of like the charity stuff

1059
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,320
you've done like vinnie and priscilla

1060
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:46,320
are parents and they do their podcasts

1061
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:47,359
around

1062
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,839
kids and birthday parties and bedtimes

1063
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,520
and all that kind of stuff so i can

1064
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:52,960
really appreciate that

1065
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,760
um

1066
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:55,920
graham was recently retired and he just

1067
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:58,000
writes books all day every day and i

1068
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,000
think he's got his 800th book coming out

1069
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,320
this month um and that's that's amazing

1070
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,160
that he puts his time into that like

1071
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:06,560
what he's doing dave does that one-man

1072
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,960
magazine which again is incredible to do

1073
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:10,640
the work he's done himself

1074
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,200
so all these people and again that's not

1075
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,440
just them but yourself the mergers the

1076
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,640
ucr's

1077
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,640
everybody else that does what they do

1078
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,000
they're still putting their time into

1079
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:21,920
this for for people out there to kind of

1080
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:24,880
help drive the conversation forward and

1081
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:27,839
if you enjoy what x y or z does then

1082
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,560
listen to them engage with them just you

1083
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:33,119
know support them if you can but there's

1084
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,640
plenty of ways to support people that

1085
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,480
aren't financial you know just

1086
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,760
people get in touch with me and it's

1087
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,280
like oh i don't have money to join up

1088
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:41,520
there so don't that's fine but do you

1089
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,880
know what if you could like something

1090
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,640
for me or retweet it that's great if you

1091
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,480
just want to email me and say i listen

1092
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,160
to the show it's amazing oh brilliant

1093
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,960
that's that's great like thanks

1094
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,320
there's a lot of great people out there

1095
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:54,160
doing a lot of good work and

1096
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,359
they're not always raising money for

1097
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,119
charity uh you know that's that's not

1098
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:59,040
really the point of what we do but it's

1099
00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:00,480
just nice that the conversation we're

1100
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:03,200
all having ultimately about other aliens

1101
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:05,119
or not which how we all got here is

1102
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:07,200
leading to all this other stuff which is

1103
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,640
which is amazing

1104
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,480
yeah it's

1105
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:12,960
it's amazing man and

1106
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,200
you know it it really came at the right

1107
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,440
time for me personally and probably for

1108
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,440
everybody else along with kovid being

1109
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:21,359
locked down like um

1110
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,880
you know i'm sure

1111
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,119
you know my life changed flipped upside

1112
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:27,119
down and i'm sure that happened as well

1113
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,640
for just about everyone else in this in

1114
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,680
this area to a certain extent and you

1115
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,359
know we wind up here

1116
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:37,920
uh doing things together conversing

1117
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,320
knowing each other uh being virtual

1118
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,480
mates or whatever um

1119
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:44,960
you know it it's really interesting how

1120
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,599
um life kind of tosses you

1121
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,119
different uh

1122
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:51,440
you know situations in you know what you

1123
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:54,400
choose to make out of it you know

1124
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:55,760
and they can

1125
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,440
wind up being beautiful it depends how

1126
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,920
you look at it but um

1127
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,160
and that kind of goes to speak for what

1128
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,400
you're doing right now with uh you know

1129
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:05,920
an ominous pod

1130
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,079
um

1131
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:10,640
are you gonna be on any of those shows

1132
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,470
i i don't want to be um

1133
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,359
because i've got my own podcast

1134
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,720
yeah

1135
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:24,640
they've all got their own like

1136
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,839
vinnie's interviewing the people he's

1137
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:27,119
interviewing he's doing it the way he

1138
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:28,960
does it he sounds like vinnie

1139
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,920
dan's pod i think if i go on to dan's

1140
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,040
pod

1141
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,599
regardless of him starting with

1142
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:37,119
hi this is dan and you're listening to

1143
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,960
colouring outside the lines and i've got

1144
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,200
andy as my co-host it just then sounds

1145
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:43,839
like that ufo podcast but sure dan's

1146
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,560
introducing it and it's just a me thing

1147
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,560
and this is purely my own personal taste

1148
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,160
as like i don't want it to sound like

1149
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,359
that ufo podcast so i would rather

1150
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,000
know i'm not on it um yeah dave and

1151
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,680
graham they've got some cool guests and

1152
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,599
stuff lined up again do that i don't

1153
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,440
want to be part of it

1154
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,359
priscilla priscilla and vinnie do their

1155
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,240
own stuff too so yeah for me no i i

1156
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,160
don't think i would want to be part of

1157
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:09,920
any of that the only way i could see

1158
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:12,800
myself being on any of those shows as if

1159
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,119
it's part of the uap media group and

1160
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,800
it's like a round table

1161
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,800
right and there's a few people invited

1162
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,400
on as part of that discussion

1163
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,319
um but i think i think people hear me

1164
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,280
enough and if they want to try and avoid

1165
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,720
me then it's better i'm on less shows

1166
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,160
than more

1167
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:29,920
is it going to be

1168
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,599
audio only other than the folks like

1169
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:35,520
vinnie and priscilla who have

1170
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,040
video you can go watch that or listen on

1171
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,760
uh boom or whatever yeah so vinnie and

1172
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:43,280
priscilla have got their own channels

1173
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,040
quantum witch cafe and obviously

1174
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,720
disclosure team everyone knows about

1175
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,400
those if you don't i like you said at

1176
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,920
the start you should apologize shame on

1177
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,400
you um but if you don't go support

1178
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:55,200
subscribe all that jazz um

1179
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,720
dave and graham

1180
00:42:03,590 --> 00:41:58,800
are both very ugly and don't want to be

1181
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,870
[Laughter]

1182
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:11,349
um what we might do is put the

1183
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,040
audio up on

1184
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,440
that ufo podcast feed

1185
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:17,760
or an anomalous pod network one i don't

1186
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,280
know yet again it's just more work if i

1187
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,440
do that see this is what happens i start

1188
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:23,839
oh yeah i could do that just do this but

1189
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:26,560
um dan's will go up on that ufo podcast

1190
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:28,000
he said that we were talking about that

1191
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:29,839
today actually and he was like nah i'll

1192
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,800
just put it up on that feed didn't so um

1193
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,480
yeah at the minute it's

1194
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,480
and even my podcast right for all it's

1195
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,680
on youtube

1196
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,240
i only done the youtube stuff because

1197
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,839
people were asking for it and i totally

1198
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:43,599
neglected that there's an audience there

1199
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,400
for for youtube

1200
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,640
graham does have a face for radio as as

1201
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,240
important

1202
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,640
look i mean that's ironic but yeah i i

1203
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:54,640
have i have the ultimate face for radio

1204
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,839
here okay um and for me it was like i i

1205
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,000
neglected so i started putting the audio

1206
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:02,800
up only on on youtube

1207
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,119
and uh people were then like oh yeah put

1208
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,440
videos on and so that's even now if you

1209
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:09,680
see i do an interview the

1210
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,760
my window is quite small and the guest

1211
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,960
one's bigger

1212
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,040
because i asked i asked

1213
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:17,839
i asked dan to do that um because it's

1214
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,750
close enough

1215
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,630
yeah

1216
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,200
i i like that window because i was like

1217
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,800
yeah i want the guests to be the focus

1218
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:30,960
not me i'm just asking the questions let

1219
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,470
you're gonna lose followers by the

1220
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,560
hundreds here um

1221
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,160
so that that was always my thing with

1222
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:42,800
the youtube so i i like to think my

1223
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,680
podcast is an audio podcast old school

1224
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,000
it's like on-demand radio and the

1225
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,160
youtube's there for people who like that

1226
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:52,240
platform whereas i know other people

1227
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:53,520
start with

1228
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,400
youtube

1229
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,319
and the audio becomes

1230
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,880
as an aside that you can also download

1231
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:00,720
and listen to this as well but

1232
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:01,520
um

1233
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:03,200
that's why i'm doing the extra for this

1234
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,440
like you asked me on last week sean and

1235
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:07,119
i've just bought a new camera that i've

1236
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,160
still not got set up yet because it the

1237
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,000
picture quality is night and day

1238
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,720
different to what i have now

1239
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,880
but it picks out all the issues with the

1240
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:18,400
background i have so i think i'm going

1241
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:19,839
to have to get a new background and

1242
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:23,520
stuff and yeah so um

1243
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,520
it's interesting yeah the the lighting

1244
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:27,680
is it gets to be kind of a pain in the

1245
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:29,200
ass

1246
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:32,079
you know i i am in a shed like people

1247
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,359
people call it my studio and all that

1248
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,440
kind of stuff like i am in a shed

1249
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:37,440
um i've never had in that fact it's not

1250
00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:38,880
joe rogan

1251
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:39,180
um

1252
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,560
[Music]

1253
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:42,400
so it's like someone's like you're a

1254
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,160
humble guy right it's like it's just

1255
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,119
true it's like why why makeup so yeah if

1256
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,119
lift the camera up you'd see the holes

1257
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:51,440
yeah

1258
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,079
honestly i can't lift the camera up any

1259
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,560
more than that because it hits wooden

1260
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,680
beams that are above

1261
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:00,480
like

1262
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,839
yeah as the setup is good my office is

1263
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,480
from the 70s dude i rent it out it's got

1264
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,560
old carpet it's gross but i make it look

1265
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,160
nice

1266
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:11,760
do you know what it's got me this far so

1267
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,280
we'll see how far it takes me before i

1268
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:15,440
have to have to move out

1269
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:16,160
yeah

1270
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,920
got to get one of those

1271
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:21,920
vinnie knows that i've got like 12 kids

1272
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:24,640
so i mean it's not 12 it's four but

1273
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:25,599
still

1274
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:27,680
that's why i have no green screen yet

1275
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,670
how does it

1276
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:41,520
how does your family feel about uh

1277
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,309
um my wife is is really supportive now i

1278
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,920
think she sees like

1279
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,680
and i don't use the word popular but i

1280
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,119
mean as far as

1281
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:55,359
she sees how many people listen to it

1282
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,319
and and engage with it and stuff um

1283
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:00,480
annoys her how much i'm on my phone like

1284
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,720
constantly on twitter and everything

1285
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,640
else when i talk to people but i think

1286
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,880
she gets like i enjoy it and it's it's

1287
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,280
it's done well and she's really really

1288
00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:11,920
supportive like she does almost every

1289
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,839
bed times where the kids like put

1290
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,119
something about all three of them but

1291
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,680
the little ones um while i interview

1292
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:20,160
research edit put stuff out or all that

1293
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,440
kind of stuff

1294
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:22,640
um

1295
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:23,760
and

1296
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,240
yeah it's funny my little my little boy

1297
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,800
he's five and my little girl is three

1298
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,640
the other one's a baby and my stepson's

1299
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,640
too old to care but the five and

1300
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,480
three-year-olds know i've got a podcast

1301
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:37,040
and they know it's about aliens and ufos

1302
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,240
so sometimes they'll pretend when

1303
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,760
they're outside look there's a spaceship

1304
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,520
i think i saw ufo

1305
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:43,040
my little boy tells me that they hide

1306
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,480
during the day when they're in the sky

1307
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,079
but we can't see them and i'm like yeah

1308
00:46:49,070 --> 00:46:48,480
probably

1309
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,080
hugs

1310
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,280
[Laughter]

1311
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:53,200
he's not bad he's quite clever but it's

1312
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:54,880
like sometimes in the house they'll

1313
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,680
pretend to go oh i've got my podcast and

1314
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:59,440
genuinely hand on heart that's this

1315
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,359
happened today my little girl sat down

1316
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,800
with a little fake disney princess

1317
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,839
laptop

1318
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,160
and she was like dad dad i'm talking to

1319
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,800
dan on my podcast i've never i've never

1320
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,640
met or spoke to dan but it was just like

1321
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,920
because they hear me have those

1322
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,319
conversations it's it's kind of that

1323
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,640
much a part of my life now um as like

1324
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:18,480
i've got two full-time jobs it takes up

1325
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:20,480
like 40 hours of my week on top of my

1326
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,440
job so um yeah but yeah they're good

1327
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:25,040
with that and it's

1328
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:26,640
it's great to have a supportive wife

1329
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,200
that's for sure i mean before this like

1330
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:31,200
i can only talk on you know stuff i know

1331
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:32,960
so i'm not trying to talk about myself

1332
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,400
just more so you know um relate to you

1333
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,559
you know i've been doing music my

1334
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,559
my whole life before this

1335
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,599
and

1336
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,520
you know having a supportive partner

1337
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,000
makes a world of difference because he

1338
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,400
puts so much of yourself into whatever

1339
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:50,960
that is whether it's this is what i do

1340
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:53,119
now but it used to be music for for 10

1341
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:54,079
years

1342
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,960
and

1343
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:56,720
you know those are times where you could

1344
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,680
be cuddling or watching a movie or

1345
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:01,280
you know um

1346
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:02,559
you know for you

1347
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,839
changing diapers or whatever it is

1348
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,040
yeah yeah

1349
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,119
so for them to be understanding of that

1350
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,359
and you know graham stocked that way too

1351
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,160
about his writing and and his partner

1352
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:16,480
and being understanding and everything

1353
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,119
and

1354
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,640
you know they're really the strength

1355
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,599
behind us because if it wasn't for that

1356
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,920
we you know who knows where we'd be or

1357
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:25,920
what we'd be doing so

1358
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:28,640
yeah she's amazing

1359
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:30,960
even when i i drove graham and myself

1360
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:32,800
down to the

1361
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,480
the minicon and preston

1362
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,160
and but even on that day it was a

1363
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,559
saturday i had to take the car so my

1364
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,800
wife was stuck in with the kids and but

1365
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,400
again she was like yeah you need the car

1366
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,240
you have to go it'll be good you'll

1367
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,559
enjoy it and it was last minute but

1368
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:49,200
stuff like that she's great so

1369
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,079
yeah

1370
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,640
well i mean

1371
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,000
you know everything was fine with my

1372
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:56,480
wife until i you know

1373
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,200
i shouldn't have said this but i said

1374
00:49:01,820 --> 00:49:00,640
you know if i have to choose i'll choose

1375
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:01,830
aliens

1376
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:04,800
[Laughter]

1377
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,920
it says you don't even know if they're

1378
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:06,720
real

1379
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:09,760
like but they could be

1380
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,119
yeah yeah

1381
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:13,119
they're probably easily he's more easily

1382
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,549
that's fine oh yeah my wife's totally

1383
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:22,079
like she's happy to get rid of me now i

1384
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,760
think to do this like

1385
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,119
sometimes she'll say to him if you know

1386
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:27,119
podcast stuff to do and i'm like

1387
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:43,510
it's good though like i like being busy

1388
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:44,400
um

1389
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,559
and outside of that it's like i finish

1390
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,400
work i walk into the house

1391
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:50,000
say hi to everyone for an hour or two

1392
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:50,880
and then

1393
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:53,200
back out for podcast stuff or reset and

1394
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,190
look into things yeah

1395
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,000
ask dan what i'm talking about um

1396
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:04,079
like no i do a little bit of work

1397
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,960
um but yes

1398
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:09,119
i like like you mentioned i started this

1399
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:11,359
because because of covid if covert

1400
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:12,640
didn't happen

1401
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:14,240
yeah almost no chance i would have

1402
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:17,920
started a podcast me too so

1403
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,079
so apologies folks cover just made

1404
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,720
things even worse but um

1405
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,079
do you know what some people seem to

1406
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,160
have some seem to have and and do enjoy

1407
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,559
it and everything so um it's it's been

1408
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:30,000
fun and

1409
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,359
i don't know i wouldn't use the word

1410
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:33,280
therapeutic because i don't i don't tend

1411
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,839
to get affected by things good or bad um

1412
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:36,720
so

1413
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:38,559
it's just it's been good that i enjoy it

1414
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,599
and

1415
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:42,160
i i would do it if 20 people listened i

1416
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,359
would do it if two million people

1417
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:45,119
listened i would do it you know for

1418
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,880
everything in between so

1419
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,240
as long as there's someone out there

1420
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,760
downloading it and listening going oh

1421
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,400
that was interesting yeah cool great

1422
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,640
on to the next one that's pretty much

1423
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,559
how music was for me my whole life i

1424
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,319
mean it sounds the same way like i'll

1425
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,240
keep playing or writing if you know as

1426
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,839
long as one person

1427
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,280
you know told me how much they like the

1428
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:04,960
song or whatever it makes it worth it

1429
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,119
and it's the same here it really is

1430
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:09,040
there's so many similarities and the

1431
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,589
it's a fashion project

1432
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:17,839
well obviously i'm i'm making so much

1433
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:20,079
money that i'm in a shed

1434
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,839
right yeah and you know what it's not

1435
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,359
it's not even a secret anymore like i

1436
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:25,760
don't mind seeing it like the

1437
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,800
those books i i done my first youtube

1438
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:31,280
live stream messing about um

1439
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:32,400
last summer

1440
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,839
and i remember like people started

1441
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:35,200
jumping on i was just testing it and

1442
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,480
never done it before

1443
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:38,079
and i was like folks don't expect

1444
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:39,440
anything from this i have nothing

1445
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,400
planned i'm just checking the camera and

1446
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,760
i'm just checking this and i'm just

1447
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:44,960
messing about with

1448
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:46,559
the system and stuff

1449
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,280
and i said to folks what do you think

1450
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,680
those no not the books what do you think

1451
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,240
that sign is sitting on that ufo podcast

1452
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,440
sign

1453
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:56,480
um

1454
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:00,880
[Laughter]

1455
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,670
it's just like you make it look like how

1456
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:14,000
you make it look so yeah yeah people and

1457
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,119
you know what

1458
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,720
say there's no money in it i'm really

1459
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:18,079
grateful to the people that signed up to

1460
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:21,040
patreon and you know like dan dan takes

1461
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,200
the youtube cash that you make and and

1462
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,960
that that supports him and allowing him

1463
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,319
to do his stuff and

1464
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,160
it's amazing that anyone sees the value

1465
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,839
in something enough to do that which

1466
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,640
which is incredible whether it's

1467
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,160
uh and it's great if people can make

1468
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,760
money to do it full-time brilliant you

1469
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:37,920
know joel rogan makes 30 million dollars

1470
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,000
a year during his podcast and i think

1471
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:41,920
there's better podcasts on ufo twitter

1472
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,839
than joe hogan's but

1473
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:45,200
he's doing what he's doing and doing

1474
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,359
well about it at the end of the day if

1475
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,119
one person's listening and they enjoy it

1476
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:51,119
great and if someone sees enough value

1477
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,000
in it

1478
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:54,640
to support brilliant i i support quite a

1479
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:57,599
lot of podcasts um a lot of them not ufo

1480
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:01,040
ones but i just think in 2022 and 2021

1481
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:02,960
as it wasn't before

1482
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:04,960
there's there's content out there i

1483
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,520
appreciate more than watching the tv

1484
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:09,680
and you know like you pay a fortune for

1485
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,559
cable services and satellite tv services

1486
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:15,599
in the uk that i've got like there's a

1487
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,240
wrestling one called osw review the guys

1488
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,160
put out like one show a month if we're

1489
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:21,839
lucky but the work they put into that

1490
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:24,880
one show to create it is incredible and

1491
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:27,200
those guys make like 10 or 11 000 a

1492
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,640
month well but they deserve it because

1493
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,640
they should be making a lot of money and

1494
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:34,000
this is their passion and i've found

1495
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:35,839
what they do so i love being able to

1496
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,960
support podcasters and youtubers and go

1497
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:40,960
you're doing this you're so good at it i

1498
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,839
enjoy watching i enjoy listening i take

1499
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,920
information from i take entertainment

1500
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,200
from it

1501
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,440
amazing i've got podcasts i listen to

1502
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,440
that that don't have a patreon or

1503
00:53:55,829 --> 00:53:53,599
anything but they're really big podcasts

1504
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:55,839
because of the advertising and it's just

1505
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,800
like

1506
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,720
i'll just listen to the adverts because

1507
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:00,640
those guys make not point not not one

1508
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:02,960
cents off of me listening to that advert

1509
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,720
but you know what they've got five

1510
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:06,480
hundred thousand people do it so i'm

1511
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,720
great because i don't want them to stop

1512
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,400
so i want to keep supporting them to do

1513
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:12,400
that and just by listening that that

1514
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:13,680
kind of helps so

1515
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:16,720
um it's amazing what's been created that

1516
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:19,920
nobody's can can sit and be on youtube

1517
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,880
and lick myself and release podcasts and

1518
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,480
you're not a celebrity

1519
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,480
and people listen to you so it's it's

1520
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:28,240
funny how the world's gone i'll tell you

1521
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,040
what if my little boy watches these

1522
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,960
youtubers these kids playing with our

1523
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:35,119
toys and it's like some of them make

1524
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,280
like 20 million dollars a year and

1525
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:38,960
they're looking at nine

1526
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,359
and i'm like they're like nine

1527
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:43,040
my little boy is getting the idea that

1528
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,480
look at the house these kids have why

1529
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:45,920
can't we have a house like that and i'm

1530
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,920
like because his daddy wasn't clever

1531
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,280
enough to film you playing with your

1532
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,960
toys when you were younger

1533
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,720
and now they have like swimming pools

1534
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,960
and 12 bedrooms and everything else oh

1535
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,400
my god

1536
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,720
it's uh it's funny how things went but

1537
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,400
this is this is the way of the world now

1538
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,240
and this is how content is created so

1539
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,720
because daddy likes you and bob's son

1540
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,040
yeah i want to talk about ufos like i

1541
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,880
could do something much cooler and

1542
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:10,160
something that makes me i've got all the

1543
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:11,760
equipment now and i've got the technical

1544
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:13,839
know-how that i could make a little

1545
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,440
youtube show for my kid

1546
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:18,720
yeah i want to talk about ufos

1547
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,359
you could interview them about ufos what

1548
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,200
do you think

1549
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,680
all right fair enough

1550
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:27,760
i could i could corner the kid's ufo

1551
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,109
okay

1552
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,359
so um i've had a great talk with you

1553
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:37,119
we're hitting up on the hour i did want

1554
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:41,040
to um ask you a serious question not

1555
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,799
quite i mean not serious but you know

1556
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:44,400
one where i won't laugh

1557
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:46,720
um you've talked to so many different

1558
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,359
people now so many people a part of the

1559
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,520
ufo community and everything

1560
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,520
um and you've had really fantastic

1561
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,960
discussions with them like i've said

1562
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,559
this before last time you were on like

1563
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,160
your your way of interviewing and the

1564
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,000
questions you ask is

1565
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,160
inspirational for me and gave me you

1566
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:03,920
know my own guidance on how to conduct

1567
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,160
my interviews and i appreciate that

1568
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:08,880
um but because you do that the way you

1569
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,359
do it um there's

1570
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,440
you know very unique information that

1571
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,240
comes out in a very unique way um so i

1572
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:18,160
guess my question is after

1573
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,000
doing all that

1574
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,880
you know have you noticed any

1575
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,720
i don't want to say patterns but has

1576
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:26,799
anything come out to you and struck you

1577
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:29,920
as any sort of truth no matter how you

1578
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:31,200
know small

1579
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,319
or large it is a about what's going on

1580
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,960
these days with the ufo scene

1581
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:38,960
yeah i suppose a couple of things that

1582
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,680
can uh kind of strike gaelic one

1583
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,280
the biggest one and i like having this

1584
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,200
conversation with them

1585
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,040
with people who ask me about the subject

1586
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:49,280
that aren't into ufos necessarily or

1587
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,480
you'll have this you know when someone

1588
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,119
finds out oh you've got a ufo podcast or

1589
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:55,520
you talk you like aliens and ufos is

1590
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:56,400
that

1591
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,119
sorry sorry folks are american here but

1592
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,040
like the u.s government

1593
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,880
doesn't really know a whole lot about

1594
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,799
what's going on and and what they're

1595
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,720
doing at the best of times

1596
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,160
so

1597
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:10,319
i think over the years the one of the

1598
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,559
great successes of the conspiracy around

1599
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,839
ufos

1600
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:15,280
has been

1601
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,960
the idea that the government had a lot

1602
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:19,040
more knowledge and capability and

1603
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:20,400
control of this than they actually

1604
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,839
probably do

1605
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:23,920
and that's that's probably one of the

1606
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:26,640
the reasons the subject for some can be

1607
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,640
so scary and one of the reasons i

1608
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,400
imagine any government

1609
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,240
would want to cover up the information

1610
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:34,559
because there's just a complete lack of

1611
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,280
control and power and i think worldwide

1612
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:39,440
you've seen that with covid that there's

1613
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,799
been so much information go about

1614
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,559
from the governments themselves and the

1615
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,920
arguments have happened within

1616
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:48,000
governments and and scientists and we've

1617
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:50,160
got it here in the uk just now where

1618
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:51,520
there's almost times they don't seem to

1619
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,400
know what's going on themselves so

1620
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:56,400
they try and make it look like they do

1621
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,079
and you imagine something like like the

1622
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,480
ufo subject i get that's why they've

1623
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,359
kept it secret in a way um

1624
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:05,200
the other the other big takeaway for me

1625
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,839
is

1626
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:07,520
it's a whole lot more complicated than

1627
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:08,960
we've got aliens coming from other

1628
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,920
planets and it definitely to me i i

1629
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,520
would put money on being that we've got

1630
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:15,359
some other presence

1631
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:16,720
on this

1632
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:23,200
than likely under the water um usos have

1633
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:25,119
always been a thing but obviously since

1634
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:26,960
the tic tac stuff came out and the us

1635
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,280
navy's become a massive focus we keep

1636
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,720
hearing more and more about how these

1637
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:33,040
things are going in and out of the water

1638
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,839
um

1639
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:35,200
so for me

1640
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,000
it might not necessarily be the tic tacs

1641
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,680
for example have got something inside of

1642
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:40,960
them

1643
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,640
but i think they're potentially being

1644
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:44,559
housed and based here like under the

1645
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,720
water or

1646
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,160
they're traveling from somewhere pretty

1647
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,480
close by some other dimension reality to

1648
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,760
be here and

1649
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,280
yeah i don't think they're down there

1650
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,119
playing with dolphins so

1651
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,960
um so yeah that that's been my two

1652
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,400
things i've really kind of taken away

1653
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,240
the last kind of year and a half

1654
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:02,720
wait till that like uh whatever

1655
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:05,599
triangle or next video comes out

1656
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:08,480
um it's literally going to be a tic tac

1657
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,280
like swimming around with dolphins

1658
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,760
that would be hilarious like we caught

1659
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,760
it in its natural habitat

1660
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:17,680
it wasn't paying attention

1661
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,240
and and jazz shaw will make millions off

1662
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:22,160
of his his graphic design work that he

1663
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,599
got off the back of the dolphin comment

1664
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:25,119
he made that one time

1665
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:27,680
yeah so yeah it's uh

1666
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,680
it's an incredible subject and do you

1667
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,359
know what i i don't think we're going to

1668
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,200
get that black triangle

1669
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,799
stuff anytime soon

1670
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:36,400
um but

1671
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:38,000
i think we're long overdue something

1672
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:38,880
else

1673
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,160
um

1674
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,000
and i wouldn't be shocked if before

1675
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:43,920
april may june when we start to hear

1676
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,920
more about the the office and the first

1677
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:47,359
reports coming out from the u.s

1678
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,880
government that if we don't have

1679
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:50,240
something else

1680
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:51,040
yeah

1681
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,559
and you know in the meantime for people

1682
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:54,799
like you and i or or even other people

1683
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:58,240
like when it's slow as far as that is

1684
01:00:01,910 --> 01:00:00,240
it's fine that's a good time to start

1685
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:01,920
you know reflecting inward and thinking

1686
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:04,240
about your own role in this and and how

1687
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:05,040
you

1688
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:10,079
comfortable with

1689
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,440
there's always something to do and it's

1690
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:13,040
always important to not lose yourself

1691
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:14,720
completely to it too we need those

1692
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,119
breaks so we can still you know love our

1693
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:20,079
family and you know have a job and you

1694
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,400
know take care of take care of ourselves

1695
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:26,240
never mind my family listen that's

1696
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:28,240
that's great right that's this breaking

1697
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,319
news has given me the chance to do a

1698
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,079
series of shows that i've been wanting

1699
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:33,920
to do for a long time and i've not over

1700
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:36,400
the time so so for me and that's what i

1701
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,599
was talking to dan about today and

1702
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:39,280
you'll see the stuff come out soon but i

1703
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:41,040
was like i can finally do this and it's

1704
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:42,640
going to be beneficial to me for other

1705
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:43,520
people

1706
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,559
i think it'll be good it'll be

1707
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:46,720
interesting and yeah so it's gave me the

1708
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:48,880
time to work on that so hopefully for a

1709
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,599
couple of weeks no breaking news no big

1710
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:53,520
updates and i can i can get on with what

1711
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,720
i want to do because it's given me the

1712
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:56,720
time to do that and and maybe maybe a

1713
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:58,880
day with the kids here and there as well

1714
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,680
unless it's a triangle video then

1715
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:03,760
it's like that that'll come out

1716
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:05,200
and i'll be like oh no i have to talk

1717
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,760
about this now

1718
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:07,680
[Laughter]

1719
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:09,680
all right bro well i had a great time

1720
01:01:13,349 --> 01:01:11,520
with you i really appreciate you you

1721
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:13,359
know taking time out of your busy life

1722
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:15,680
your full-time job all your podcasts by

1723
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:17,119
the way if you ever need help editing

1724
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:19,040
podcasts i have a whole music production

1725
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,040
set up i can kick those off fast for you

1726
01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:23,359
if it's of anything nice so i'll offer

1727
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:25,599
that to you um other than that anything

1728
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:28,000
else you want to say or you know part

1729
01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:29,440
the show with

1730
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,079
yeah thank you sean for what you do and

1731
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,160
we do that whole podcast blowing smoke

1732
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,760
up each other's ass thing for for the

1733
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,920
end on me everyone does that yeah oh god

1734
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:39,280
you're so good

1735
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:40,799
thank you thank you

1736
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:41,599
yeah

1737
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:51,599
for everyone who follows and listens to

1738
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:54,400
that ufo podcast um but also the the new

1739
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,359
venture is um anomalous podcast network

1740
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,520
you can subscribe to it now on almost

1741
01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:01,920
every platform um if you just follow a

1742
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,559
search for anomalous podcast network um

1743
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:06,480
the the new podcast today was vinnie's

1744
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:08,480
interview with chris leo um which was

1745
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:10,240
awesome that's available in oreo form

1746
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,520
but please check out on vinnie's

1747
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,520
platform if you can uh priscilla's will

1748
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:15,680
be out this saturday and she's talking

1749
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:17,920
to a guest about starseeds which i don't

1750
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:19,440
know much about but it's something i

1751
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:21,200
wouldn't talk about on mine but she

1752
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:23,520
knows her stuff with that um you can

1753
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,280
listen to dave and graham's introductory

1754
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,520
episode just now as well all of that's

1755
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,440
on there and loads more to come and if

1756
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:31,039
you just if you follow it on twitter

1757
01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:33,440
it's anomalouspodnet or instagram's

1758
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:35,920
anonymous podcast network again but but

1759
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:37,839
yeah awesome cool

1760
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:40,160
well with that being said sir until next

1761
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:43,440
time i look forward to it and be well um

1762
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,640
i wish you the best for you and your

1763
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,640
family in the in the new venture

1764
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:48,720
yeah thank you man and have a good one

1765
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:51,680
yep you too bye

1766
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:54,480
all right that was fun uh mr andy that

1767
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:56,880
was great so i put the links for

1768
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:58,480
everything we talked about in the

1769
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,160
description of this video so please

1770
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:02,880
check it out support him um he

1771
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:05,359
he's a good dude and i really appreciate

1772
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:07,359
him taking the time to do this

1773
01:03:10,309 --> 01:03:08,559
um

1774
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:10,319
you know if you want a good

1775
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:11,599
um

1776
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:13,680
grounded resource for this kind of stuff

1777
01:03:17,589 --> 01:03:15,119
you really can't find a better place

1778
01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:17,599
than than following that guy in that ufo

1779
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,799
podcast and and all the people that um

1780
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:22,640
you know he surrounds himself with

1781
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:24,559
some of which are here today

1782
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:28,960
like mr vinnie and graham and dave um in

1783
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,039
priscilla and

1784
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,280
signal and all that stuff so just

1785
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:36,000
fantastic people and i am so lucky

1786
01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:37,039
to

1787
01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:40,799
know the dude josh man i put this stuff

1788
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:42,559
in the description

1789
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:44,960
so there's uh

1790
01:03:48,069 --> 01:03:47,119
there's anomalous pod and then there's

1791
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:48,079
um

1792
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:50,079
uh that ufo podcast

1793
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:52,160
but you know just make sure that

1794
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:54,480
whatever you do you're listening to this

1795
01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:56,079
one first

1796
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:57,119
um

1797
01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:59,359
and then you know then you can go listen

1798
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:01,680
to his stuff but make sure that you're

1799
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,400
listening to this one first and that you

1800
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:05,760
remember

1801
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:08,559
and you listen to all 300 some episodes

1802
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:12,000
and then if you have time

1803
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:13,680
and don't lie to me then you can go

1804
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:19,190
i'm just kidding all right guys i won't

1805
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:22,799
be live again until january 10 26th i'm

1806
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:26,319
taking a little live stream break um and

1807
01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:28,480
that show is going to be with leslie

1808
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:30,799
kane so it's going to be awesome

1809
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:32,799
but i'm taking a little break

1810
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:36,799
um just to get some juices back let the

1811
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,799
you know let the anticipation build um

1812
01:04:43,050 --> 01:04:42,720
and all that kind of stuff so

1813
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:43,060
um

1814
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,160
[Music]

1815
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:46,319
but you know where to find me

1816
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,200
uh plenty to catch up on on the page so

1817
01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:51,520
i will see y'all soon thanks so much for

1818
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:53,839
hanging out

1819
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:55,760
next time i'm gonna let you in on

1820
01:04:59,349 --> 01:04:57,440
something could these sausages be some

1821
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:59,359
kind of a secret weapon of ours

1822
01:05:02,069 --> 01:05:00,160
no

1823
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:02,079
if they were air material command would

1824
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:03,920
be the first to know how about a device

1825
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:05,839
from a foreign country we know they're

1826
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:08,640
not

1827
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:12,319
[Music]

1828
01:06:31,349 --> 01:05:55,250
so